錦織はキャリアハイ何位までいけるか GS MSは [無断転載禁止]©2ch.net
どう思う?
俺はキャリアハイ3位 GS0MS は何個かいける(いけたらいいな)と思う もうすでに4位なのにアホか
西岡ダニエルみたいなやつならまだしも
1: 5% 2:15% 3:50% 4:30%
くらいじゃねで終わる話 プレイスタイル的にはジョコ、マレーと引退時期、落ち目時期が被りそうだしキャリアハイは3位までの様な気もする
gs msはキャリア中当たり運次第では取れそうな気もするが複数個は厳しいんじゃないかなあ Today is Thursday, February 25th. I'm Mary and you're watching Gamespot news. For the rich. First up, let's all give a round of applause to Victor Kislyi, who made his first billion. The video game industry has a new billionaire in its ranks.
Bloomberg reports today, that Victor Kislyi, founder and CEO of Cyprus based World of Tanks developer Wargaming, has a net worth of one billion. ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
Kislyi decline to confirm this number, but in standard rich person fashion, he told the publication that he lives a very modest life-style. He's no wonder put a number in his fortune. Good job Victor, hide your riches.
Money is the topic that i purposely tried to avoid. The company itself has reportedly valued 1.5 billion dollars. Kislyi controls 64 percent of the business directly,
and also has his father's 25.5 percert stake. According to Bloomberg, Wargaming has a network of 150 million users accross the globe. The studio is best known for its free-to-play game World of Tanks, which makes a butt-ton of a cash, through
The Bloomberg profile on Kislyi is a good read, if you're a subscriber to that type of thing, packed with interesting insights into the luxurious life and various investments.
"I really think money doesn't make you happy." Other notable gaming billionares include Mine Craft director Markus Notch Persson, and Valve head Gabe Newell.
Despite Kislyi's modest life-style, we can all look forward to the near future, when he outbids Jay Z and Beyonce in a Beverly Hills mansion and parties with Selena Gomez.
Next stop is a story for a gamer with an average amount of money who we call normies. In normie news., Pokemon Sun and Moon was listed today.
Trademark applications for Pokemon Sun and Moon, including logos, have been published on the European trademark registry.
Discovered by Nerdleaks, the listing states they were filed today. The Nintendo direct briefing, which was expecting big news takes place tomorrow.
So this might have been leaked. Note that the trademark registrations don't always mount to product releases. Additionally, there's no mention in the listing that Pokemon Sun and Moon are games.
And add to that, Pokemon Sun and Moon appeared to be the name of fan-made games. You can see it right here. The Pokemon-themed Nintendo ●r● kicks off tomorrow, Feburuary 26th at 7 a.m.
Gamespot will have all the news as it's announced. So hopefully, this one's real. Finally, there's something you just can't put a number on. ●r●l● exquisite pieces, that are priceless.
Things like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6. Coming to Xbox one and PS4. You can't put a number on things like that. They're gonna be listed for 20 dollars a piece.
All rich people enjoy a good full bodied ●r●. And today Capcom announced today that all three games are coming to new consoles, beginning with Resident Evil 6 in March.
Each game? It's be gonna 20 bucks. Resident Evil 6's r●-r●l● will come with all pr●l● r●l● add-on content, including costumes and more.
Resident Evil 5's release is sl● for summer 2016, with Resident Evil 4, coming this fall. Capcom also announced that ●l disc versions will ●l●le in America, though no ●rth● details were provided.
Publisher didn't say if the new versions of any game will be ●gr● to better ●r● or if they'll just be a standard port.
In many ways, Gamespot news is like this 6-year ●l● Kentucky rye whiskey. It's rich, full-bodied, and I'm about to finish it right now. See you guys again tomorrow.
idiot, nerd, geek, loser, piece of shit, sob, scum, sucker, sicko, psycho
ポンコツ・トンチキ・ガラクタ・クズ・ゴミ・カス・最低以下の下劣・下等種族。 劣等種族・下衆野郎・腐れ外道・邪道・外道・非道・ウジ虫・害虫・ガン細胞。 ウィルス・ばい菌・疫病神・病原体・汚染源・公害・ダイオキシン・有毒物質。 廃棄物・発癌物 Today is Thursday, February 25th. I'm Mary and you're watching Gamespot news. For the rich. First up, let's all give a round of applause to Victor Kislyi, who made his first billion. The video game industry has a new billionaire in its ranks.
Bloomberg reports today, that Victor Kislyi, founder and CEO of Cyprus based World of Tanks developer Wargaming, has a net worth of one billion. ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
Kislyi decline to confirm this number, but in standard rich person fashion, he told the publication that he lives a very modest life-style. He's no wonder put a number in his fortune. Good job Victor, hide your riches.
Money is the topic that i purposely tried to avoid. The company itself has reportedly valued 1.5 billion dollars. Kislyi controls 64 percent of the business directly,
and also has his father's 25.5 percert stake. According to Bloomberg, Wargaming has a network of 150 million users accross the globe. The studio is best known for its free-to-play game World of Tanks, which makes a butt-ton of a cash, through
The Bloomberg profile on Kislyi is a good read, if you're a subscriber to that type of thing, packed with interesting insights into the luxurious life and various investments.
"I really think money doesn't make you happy." Other notable gaming billionares include Mine Craft director Markus Notch Persson, and Valve head Gabe Newell.
Despite Kislyi's modest life-style, we can all look forward to the near future, when he outbids Jay Z and Beyonce in a Beverly Hills mansion and parties with Selena Gomez.
Next stop is a story for a gamer with an average amount of money who we call normies. In normie news., Pokemon Sun and Moon was listed today.
Trademark applications for Pokemon Sun and Moon, including logos, have been published on the European trademark registry.
Discovered by Nerdleaks, the listing states they were filed today. The Nintendo direct briefing, which was expecting big news takes place tomorrow.
So this might have been leaked. Note that the trademark registrations don't always mount to product releases. Additionally, there's no mention in the listing that Pokemon Sun and Moon are games.
And add to that, Pokemon Sun and Moon appeared to be the name of fan-made games. You can see it right here. The Pokemon-themed Nintendo ●r● kicks off tomorrow, Feburuary 26th at 7 a.m.
Gamespot will have all the news as it's announced. So hopefully, this one's real. Finally, there's something you just can't put a number on. ●r●l● exquisite pieces, that are priceless.
Things like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6. Coming to Xbox one and PS4. You can't put a number on things like that. They're gonna be listed for 20 dollars a piece.
All rich people enjoy a good full bodied ●r●. And today Capcom announced today that all three games are coming to new consoles, beginning with Resident Evil 6 in March.
Each game? It's be gonna 20 bucks. Resident Evil 6's r●-r●l● will come with all pr●l● r●l● add-on content, including costumes and more.
Resident Evil 5's release is sl● for summer 2016, with Resident Evil 4, coming this fall. Capcom also announced that ●l disc versions will ●l●le in America, though no ●rth● details were provided.
Publisher didn't say if the new versions of any game will be ●gr● to better ●r● or if they'll just be a standard port.
In many ways, Gamespot news is like this 6-year ●l● Kentucky rye whiskey. It's rich, full-bodied, and I'm about to finish it right now. See you guys again tomorrow.
idiot, nerd, geek, loser, piece of shit, sob, scum, sucker, sicko, psycho
ポンコツ・トンチキ・ガラクタ・クズ・ゴミ・カス・最低以下の下劣・下等種族。 劣等種族・下衆野郎・腐れ外道・邪道・外道・非道・ウジ虫・害虫・ガン細胞。 ウィルス・ばい菌・疫病神・病原体・汚染源・公害・ダイオキシン・有毒物質。 廃棄物・発癌物 Today is Thursday, February 25th. I'm Mary and you're watching Gamespot news. For the rich. First up, let's all give a round of applause to Victor Kislyi, who made his first billion. The video game industry has a new billionaire in its ranks.
Bloomberg reports today, that Victor Kislyi, founder and CEO of Cyprus based World of Tanks developer Wargaming, has a net worth of one billion. ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
Kislyi decline to confirm this number, but in standard rich person fashion, he told the publication that he lives a very modest life-style. He's no wonder put a number in his fortune. Good job Victor, hide your riches.
Money is the topic that i purposely tried to avoid. The company itself has reportedly valued 1.5 billion dollars. Kislyi controls 64 percent of the business directly,
and also has his father's 25.5 percert stake. According to Bloomberg, Wargaming has a network of 150 million users accross the globe. The studio is best known for its free-to-play game World of Tanks, which makes a butt-ton of a cash, through
The Bloomberg profile on Kislyi is a good read, if you're a subscriber to that type of thing, packed with interesting insights into the luxurious life and various investments.
"I really think money doesn't make you happy." Other notable gaming billionares include Mine Craft director Markus Notch Persson, and Valve head Gabe Newell.
Despite Kislyi's modest life-style, we can all look forward to the near future, when he outbids Jay Z and Beyonce in a Beverly Hills mansion and parties with Selena Gomez.
Next stop is a story for a gamer with an average amount of money who we call normies. In normie news., Pokemon Sun and Moon was listed today.
Trademark applications for Pokemon Sun and Moon, including logos, have been published on the European trademark registry.
Discovered by Nerdleaks, the listing states they were filed today. The Nintendo direct briefing, which was expecting big news takes place tomorrow.
So this might have been leaked. Note that the trademark registrations don't always mount to product releases. Additionally, there's no mention in the listing that Pokemon Sun and Moon are games.
And add to that, Pokemon Sun and Moon appeared to be the name of fan-made games. You can see it right here. The Pokemon-themed Nintendo ●r● kicks off tomorrow, Feburuary 26th at 7 a.m.
Gamespot will have all the news as it's announced. So hopefully, this one's real. Finally, there's something you just can't put a number on. ●r●l● exquisite pieces, that are priceless.
Things like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6. Coming to Xbox one and PS4. You can't put a number on things like that. They're gonna be listed for 20 dollars a piece.
All rich people enjoy a good full bodied ●r●. And today Capcom announced today that all three games are coming to new consoles, beginning with Resident Evil 6 in March.
Each game? It's be gonna 20 bucks. Resident Evil 6's r●-r●l● will come with all pr●l● r●l● add-on content, including costumes and more.
Resident Evil 5's release is sl● for summer 2016, with Resident Evil 4, coming this fall. Capcom also announced that ●l disc versions will ●l●le in America, though no ●rth● details were provided.
Publisher didn't say if the new versions of any game will be ●gr● to better ●r● or if they'll just be a standard port.
In many ways, Gamespot news is like this 6-year ●l● Kentucky rye whiskey. It's rich, full-bodied, and I'm about to finish it right now. See you guys again tomorrow.
idiot, nerd, geek, loser, piece of shit, sob, scum, sucker, sicko, psycho
ポンコツ・トンチキ・ガラクタ・クズ・ゴミ・カス・最低以下の下劣・下等種族。 劣等種族・下衆野郎・腐れ外道・邪道・外道・非道・ウジ虫・害虫・ガン細胞。 ウィルス・ばい菌・疫病神・病原体・汚染源・公害・ダイオキシン・有毒物質。 廃棄物・発癌物 >>9
いや運も味方すれば一個は行ける気がする
BIG4が衰えてきて
下の世代もBIG4並みの選手いないし >>11
けど錦織って下に強いんだよ
錦織がどうしても勝つのが難しいのはBIG4ぐらいで
その他にはほとんど高確率で勝てるからな。
ルや空気みたいにここまでで才能ある若手に負けてきてないのは大きいよ
ルの強化版のような感じで、結構隙をついていけると思うよ >>16
分かりづらい文になったけど
ルや空気はまだ全盛期の時から錦織に結構負けてきたからね
錦織には年下にそういう相手がいないのは大きい キリオス、ズベレフも今錦織の敵ではなさそうだしね
それよりは同世代ラオニッチ、チリッチあたりビックサーバーのが苦手だね
もしこのままの強さでジョコ、マレーが引退するまで行ければ全然GSも夢ではないと思うわ マスターズの優勝の仕方を覚えMS3勝
GSF3回、キャリアハイ2位ってのが現実的な所じゃないかね
一位は相当厳しい
なれる資格はあるが、、、って感じ キャリアハイ3位GS0MS1〜2
これが現実的な予想かな >>20
現実は俺もこれだと思う。
ただ期待も込めてMS3個位とって欲しい Today is Thursday, February 25th. I'm Mary and you're watching Gamespot news. For the rich. First up, let's all give a round of applause to Victor Kislyi, who made his first billion. The video game industry has a new billionaire in its ranks.
Bloomberg reports today, that Victor Kislyi, founder and CEO of Cyprus based World of Tanks developer Wargaming, has a net worth of one billion. ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
Kislyi decline to confirm this number, but in standard rich person fashion, he told the publication that he lives a very modest life-style. He's no wonder put a number in his fortune. Good job Victor, hide your riches.
Money is the topic that i purposely tried to avoid. The company itself has reportedly valued 1.5 billion dollars. Kislyi controls 64 percent of the business directly,
and also has his father's 25.5 percert stake. According to Bloomberg, Wargaming has a network of 150 million users accross the globe. The studio is best known for its free-to-play game World of Tanks, which makes a butt-ton of a cash, through
The Bloomberg profile on Kislyi is a good read, if you're a subscriber to that type of thing, packed with interesting insights into the luxurious life and various investments.
"I really think money doesn't make you happy." Other notable gaming billionares include Mine Craft director Markus Notch Persson, and Valve head Gabe Newell.
Despite Kislyi's modest life-style, we can all look forward to the near future, when he outbids Jay Z and Beyonce in a Beverly Hills mansion and parties with Selena Gomez.
Next stop is a story for a gamer with an average amount of money who we call normies. In normie news., Pokemon Sun and Moon was listed today.
Trademark applications for Pokemon Sun and Moon, including logos, have been published on the European trademark registry.
Discovered by Nerdleaks, the listing states they were filed today. The Nintendo direct briefing, which was expecting big news takes place tomorrow.
So this might have been leaked. Note that the trademark registrations don't always mount to product releases. Additionally, there's no mention in the listing that Pokemon Sun and Moon are games.
And add to that, Pokemon Sun and Moon appeared to be the name of fan-made games. You can see it right here. The Pokemon-themed Nintendo ●r● kicks off tomorrow, Feburuary 26th at 7 a.m.
Gamespot will have all the news as it's announced. So hopefully, this one's real. Finally, there's something you just can't put a number on. ●r●l● exquisite pieces, that are priceless.
Things like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6. Coming to Xbox one and PS4. You can't put a number on things like that. They're gonna be listed for 20 dollars a piece.
All rich people enjoy a good full bodied ●r●. And today Capcom announced today that all three games are coming to new consoles, beginning with Resident Evil 6 in March.
Each game? It's be gonna 20 bucks. Resident Evil 6's r●-r●l● will come with all pr●l● r●l● add-on content, including costumes and more.
Resident Evil 5's release is sl● for summer 2016, with Resident Evil 4, coming this fall. Capcom also announced that ●l disc versions will ●l●le in America, though no ●rth● details were provided.
Publisher didn't say if the new versions of any game will be ●gr● to better ●r● or if they'll just be a standard port.
In many ways, Gamespot news is like this 6-year ●l● Kentucky rye whiskey. It's rich, full-bodied, and I'm about to finish it right now. See you guys again tomorrow.
idiot, nerd, geek, loser, piece of shit, sob, scum, sucker, sicko, psycho
ポンコツ・トンチキ・ガラクタ・クズ・ゴミ・カス・最低以下の下劣・下等種族。 劣等種族・下衆野郎・腐れ外道・邪道・外道・非道・ウジ虫・害虫・ガン細胞。 ウィルス・ばい菌・疫病神・病原体・汚染源・公害・ダイオキシン・有毒物質。 廃棄物・発癌物 Today is Thursday, February 25th. I'm Mary and you're watching Gamespot news. For the rich. First up, let's all give a round of applause to Victor Kislyi, who made his first billion. The video game industry has a new billionaire in its ranks.
Bloomberg reports today, that Victor Kislyi, founder and CEO of Cyprus based World of Tanks developer Wargaming, has a net worth of one billion. ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
Kislyi decline to confirm this number, but in standard rich person fashion, he told the publication that he lives a very modest life-style. He's no wonder put a number in his fortune. Good job Victor, hide your riches.
Money is the topic that i purposely tried to avoid. The company itself has reportedly valued 1.5 billion dollars. Kislyi controls 64 percent of the business directly,
and also has his father's 25.5 percert stake. According to Bloomberg, Wargaming has a network of 150 million users accross the globe. The studio is best known for its free-to-play game World of Tanks, which makes a butt-ton of a cash, through
The Bloomberg profile on Kislyi is a good read, if you're a subscriber to that type of thing, packed with interesting insights into the luxurious life and various investments.
"I really think money doesn't make you happy." Other notable gaming billionares include Mine Craft director Markus Notch Persson, and Valve head Gabe Newell.
Despite Kislyi's modest life-style, we can all look forward to the near future, when he outbids Jay Z and Beyonce in a Beverly Hills mansion and parties with Selena Gomez.
Next stop is a story for a gamer with an average amount of money who we call normies. In normie news., Pokemon Sun and Moon was listed today.
Trademark applications for Pokemon Sun and Moon, including logos, have been published on the European trademark registry.
Discovered by Nerdleaks, the listing states they were filed today. The Nintendo direct briefing, which was expecting big news takes place tomorrow.
So this might have been leaked. Note that the trademark registrations don't always mount to product releases. Additionally, there's no mention in the listing that Pokemon Sun and Moon are games.
And add to that, Pokemon Sun and Moon appeared to be the name of fan-made games. You can see it right here. The Pokemon-themed Nintendo ●r● kicks off tomorrow, Feburuary 26th at 7 a.m.
Gamespot will have all the news as it's announced. So hopefully, this one's real. Finally, there's something you just can't put a number on. ●r●l● exquisite pieces, that are priceless.
Things like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 5, and Resident Evil 6. Coming to Xbox one and PS4. You can't put a number on things like that. They're gonna be listed for 20 dollars a piece.
All rich people enjoy a good full bodied ●r●. And today Capcom announced today that all three games are coming to new consoles, beginning with Resident Evil 6 in March.
Each game? It's be gonna 20 bucks. Resident Evil 6's r●-r●l● will come with all pr●l● r●l● add-on content, including costumes and more.
Resident Evil 5's release is sl● for summer 2016, with Resident Evil 4, coming this fall. Capcom also announced that ●l disc versions will ●l●le in America, though no ●rth● details were provided.
Publisher didn't say if the new versions of any game will be ●gr● to better ●r● or if they'll just be a standard port.
In many ways, Gamespot news is like this 6-year ●l● Kentucky rye whiskey. It's rich, full-bodied, and I'm about to finish it right now. See you guys again tomorrow.
idiot, nerd, geek, loser, piece of shit, sob, scum, sucker, sicko, psycho
ポンコツ・トンチキ・ガラクタ・クズ・ゴミ・カス・最低以下の下劣・下等種族。 劣等種族・下衆野郎・腐れ外道・邪道・外道・非道・ウジ虫・害虫・ガン細胞。 ウィルス・ばい菌・疫病神・病原体・汚染源・公害・ダイオキシン・有毒物質。 廃棄物・発癌物 錦織、昨年末あたりから乾いた咳をしているように思いますが大丈夫でしょうか。。 GS1個
MS3個
キャリアハイ2位
このくらいいく サーブを1本だけにしろよ
サーブに比重が置かれてすぎわ
体のでかい選手のほうがサーブが早いから有利になる
サーブを1本にしたら、スピードが落ちるから
サービスエースが減る
サーブを1本にしたら錦織が優勝するんじゃないか
日本でやる試合だけども、サーブを1本にしよう 世界ランクは3位
タイトルはMS1個獲れるかどうかだと思う。
再来年までがこれらの可能性があると思う。それ以上はないだろう。 >>28
それだと逆にストロークに偏りすぎでしょ。 錦織がラッキーなのはおトロロえてきたと同時に若手が上がってこないこと
同世代で互角と言えるのはラオニッチ、デッイミトロフぐらいしかいない
キリオスやズベレフが安定感が出るのはまだ先の話だし
30までの3年間は錦織の時代になると思うよ 2位 GS3(仏2米1) MS5(マドリード2 ローマ1 マイアミ1 トロント1)
希望がかなり入ってるけど、なかなかリアリティあると自画自賛 ジョコ敗退
マレー敗退
フェデラーを倒せば残すはラオニッチのみ
この流れは完全に錦織 ジョコ敗退
マレー敗退
錦織を倒せば残すはラオニッチのみ
この流れは完全にフェデラー
でしたね >>35
そんな行くかなあ??
ハイ3 ms2と予想 GS0 MS1 最高3位
GSは無理だと思うけどMSはなんとか取れそう キャリアハイ
全豪:ベスト4
全仏:準優勝
全英:ベスト8
全米:優勝
ATPファイナル:準優勝
世界ランキング最高位2位 >>40
ないない
今の錦織にそんなハングリー精神感じられない
残念な負け方してもあこに慰安してもらってそれからグルメ、それから買い物
気分リフレッシュして気持ち切り替え、それから次に備えよう、って思ってそう
負けたことはもう忘れて前を向こうよ、圭。とかあこが言ってるだろ big4の活躍が今年で終わってくれるなら来年以降GSチャンスあると去年思っていたが、今回のフェデラーナダルを見てるとジョコもマレーもまた上げてきそうだし厳しいかも
ディミトロフもやっと覚醒しだしたし
GS0 MS2 キャリアハイ3位
くらいじゃね? >>44
>>20も言ってるけどこれが現実的な予想だよな
でも錦織はこれまでも俺らの予想を超えて来たからな
2012、2013頃はスレの雰囲気も
「一瞬でもトップ10に入れれば上出来。GSは運が良ければベスト4行けるかも」って感じだった 錦織は08年のデルレービーチと全米、14年全米で日本人を期待させすぎた結果、アンチが増えたんだろうな GS取れたら奇跡だよね
と言う事でGS0MS2と予想
でもベテランが強いからあと三年でMSもどうなんだろう 3位でGS0MS2だろう
今年のマドリードは取る気がする 球技でサーブが二回できるのはテニスだけだろ
テニスもサーブは一回でもいいと思う
錦織はサーブを一回のルールでマレーかジョコビッチと戦ったら
勝つかもしれないな
日本で特別にやったらいい
だれかスポンサーはいませんか サーブが1回だとセカンドしょぼい錦織は尚更不利になりそうな気もするが
イズナーとか高身長の選手はキック系でも十分脅威になるし。
マレーはかなり弱体化しそうだが GS0、MS2、4位かな
ナダルフェデラー復帰、ディミも去年とは違うし、正直五位以下もあり得る 2017年は1位になるっていう具体的な目標をもっているし、自分は今年のGSやMS
期待してます。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1l5sDpa6Ic ダビド・フェレール175cm73kg
キャリアハイ3位、GS0、MS1
全豪ベスト4
全仏準優勝
全英ベスト8
全米ベスト4
ツアーファイナルズ準優勝
フェレールが近いか 対戦で勝ち越してるフェレール程度の成績で錦織が終わる訳ないじゃん
自身の全盛期にbig4時代が全被りした哀れなフェレールと違って錦織には未来があるし 全豪のフェデナダ見てから、
GSがやけに遠く感じるようになった。 去年の全米準決勝でガス欠したところで厳しいかなと思ったけど >>61
これぐらいかもう少し低いかだろうね
フェレールが活躍してる時代って今のBIG4+ワウリンカ デルポトロ チリッチ等の強者祭りじゃないからね 日本人でトップ10に数年いるだけでも錦織はバケモンだぞ
高望みしちゃーいけない
でもMS2勝はいけると思う
GSは無理かな >>68
もうとっくに落ち目じゃん
負けてばっかり
がっかりばっかりでうんざりって人多いよ 技術面やメンタル面、その他体力的にもピークに近いのは確かだと思うけど、まだ
下り坂ではないと思う。あともう少しの経験と運と、何かのきっかけが必要かと。
フェデラーでさえサンプラスに勝った試合直後、まだ4回戦なのに人目をはばからず
イスに座って涙していた。
この前の全豪のフェデ戦は色々言われてるけど、つまりは王者、ましてや相手が
テニス史上でも最高と言われる選手となると、大舞台で倒すにはすごい決意と気迫が
必要なんだろうなって思う。そして錦織君にはその部分があと少しだけ足りないのかな
と感じました。錦織君と大坂さんにはこれからも良い経験を積んでがんばってほしいな。 フェデラーサンプラスってフェデラーが20歳くらいのときじゃん
立場が違いすぎる だから何でお前らはそう悲観的な予想しか出来ないんだ
ジョコに陰りが見えている&同世代のラオディミには勝ち越している&下の世代は明らかに不作(ズベには大器の片鱗を感じるけどトップになるのはまだ先だろう)
これらの状況を鑑みるに今後は錦織が稼げる穴場の時代に徐々に突入する可能性は高いし最終的にフェレール程度は超えるだろ
もっと言えば師匠(2位,GS1勝,MS7勝)並の成績を残せる可能性もゼロではないとも思ってる ビッグ4の勝負強さ、ピンチでギア上げれる強さ見ちゃうとなー
まあマスターズ10001つ取れればトントンと行けそうな気もする。
足りないの自信だけかもしれん >>74
08年全豪ツォンガの衝撃は忘れない
完全にナダルをカモにしてた マジでマドリード取れなかったのがここまで響いたと思う
今のフィジカルなら最後まで持ってたハズ
あれは運がないとしかいい様がないね >>76
フットワークがいまより全然いいしね。
あれがフィジカルエリート何だと思うわ。 >>77
あの時のナダルは衰弱の兆しが著しくフェレールはともかく
アルマグロにもクレーで負け、トップフォームを崩していたのは誰の目にも明らかだった
確かに勝てた試合だったが前日のフェレール戦が響いていたともいえる
あの時の門番は準BIG4並みの実力が健在だったから激戦になったのも仕方がない ただ基本的には(緩やかにではあるが)BIG4もこれから力を落としていくと思われる。
今回の全豪のフェデ×ナダル戦だって、全盛期に比べたらやはりわずかにレベルダウン
している点もあった。
幸いBIG4以外に大きく伸びしろをもっていたり、圧倒的な力でツアーを支配しそうな
人物はいない。
日本の誇り、錦織圭はこの時代の大きな流れに生まれたわずかな隙間を突けるか・・・。 ディミトロフズベレフやキリオスに負け始めたらもうアウトだろうな うん・・・BIG4が衰えていくのは確実。ただあまり時間が経つと今度は下の世代が
経験を積んで成長してくる。幸い今のところサンプラスやフェデラーのような
1人で勝ちまくりそうな選手は出てきていない。
希望的観測だが・・全豪を見る限りテニスの全盛期の期間がわずかに伸びているとして、
錦織君のプレースタイルも考慮して・・かなり多めに見積もって32才までがリミットか。
結果、あと5年+今年の残りのGS3戦を足して計23回あるうち1つ獲れるか・・・。
ただ芝での優勝は決勝までの対戦相手7人全員が錦織との試合中に落雷に合うくらいのことが
ない限り厳しいと思われるので、マイナス6で・・・実質あと17回のチャンス。
サンプラス×アガシ後にスター不在を想像していたらフェデラーが現れてBIG4時代になった。
急がないといつまたフェデラーみたいなテニスの申し子みたいなのが現れないとも言い切れない。
今年の全仏獲るんだ!圭!! 錦織がもしGS獲れるなら全仏だろうなとは思う
根拠としては名前の圭には土が二つ入っている
これはもう運命だとしか言えない しかもチャンが17才で全仏を獲った1989年に錦織は生まれた。
そして縁あってそのチャンがコーチ。
自分も獲るなら全仏だと思ってる。そしてチャンとは真逆で
現役最後の方に奇跡的に獲れるのかな・・・なんかも想像して震えてる・・。 うぉぉぉぉぉぉぉぉぉぉぉ
これは運命なのだぁ!!
もし実現したら俺は「神」の存在を信じるね >>78
あの時地味に初戦でマレーも倒してるんだよな 錦織の全盛期が32歳くらいまで続いたとして下の世代も出てこないとして
もしかしたら最終的にマレーくらいの成績を残せる可能性はあるか? 錦織君を応援してるが・・正直今の力が32才まで続く可能性はかぎりなく低いと思う・・。
時代が違うとはいえ、よく似た体型・プレースタイルのチャンは31才で引退してる。
じゃあヒューイットは34才で引退したじゃんってなるが、彼も引退する3年前からGSでは
1,2回戦負けがほとんど。つまり31才・・・。
そして下の世代はもれなく大型選手が多い。BIG4が衰える+下の世代の台頭の隙間である
ここ2〜3年に1つ獲れるかがが現実的な勝負で、ふつうに考えてマレーほどの成績は非常に
厳しいだろうな。 一応言うと、@錦織君の全盛期が32才まで続くA下の世代がこのまま・・と仮定したとしても
マレーほどの成績は100%無理だな・・・。
アンディ・マレー190cm(178cm 以下、カッコ内は錦織君)
ツアー通算44勝 (11勝)
全豪準優勝5回 (ベスト8 3回)
全仏準優勝1回 (ベスト8 1回)
全英優勝2回 (4回戦 2回)
全米優勝1回 (準優勝 1回)
オリンピック金2コ(胴 1コ)
ジョコ・ナダル・フェデがいる時代にこれだけ勝ってるマレーは十分バケモンだし、
ワウリンカはじめその他の選手も強敵ぞろい。 今の方が選手寿命が延びてるんだから昔の選手と比較するのは間違ってる
それに錦織は若い時の怪我でフェレールワウリンカほどではないにせよ本格台頭するのは割と遅かった
チャンヒューイットは早熟だったから衰えも早かったが錦織は31、2歳くらいまでは力を維持できると思う
確かに今の実績を見るとマレーに追いつくのは到底無理だと思われるだろう
だがサフィンも言ってるように今は上位が高齢化で衰え下の世代も不作という状況
今後は錦織にとって稼げるチャンスタイムが来るしマレーに追いつく可能性はあるんじゃないかと思う
これからの事なんて解らんよ 錦織は印象とは違って格下には安定して勝てる選手だ
チャンスタイムが来れば年にGS1勝,MS3勝,ツアー7〜8勝くらいは安定して取れる実力はあると思う
これが3年続けばマレーの実績と比べてもそこまで見劣りしないレベルになる
不可能な話ではないと思うんだがどうだろう >>87
まず14年全仏は錦織も期待されたが、股関節痛が響きクリザンの1回戦負け
バブもモンテを取って、クレーは得意だから期待されたが彼も1回戦負け
ナダルは前哨戦のクレーMSがマドリードで錦織負傷でも貰った1勝でとどまり
多くの予想ではジョコが優勝候補になり予想でのトップだったナダルはジョコに譲る形に
蓋を開けたらジョコ燃料切れ、ナダルの不調からやや脱却が交錯して9回目の優勝した >>96
ディミトロフやトミックに力負けする選手じゃ無理
スペ体質が年に8勝なんて無理 >>96
今年限定で言うと、復活したフェデラー、ナダルとあとはジョコの復活がカギを握るな
予想なんでキリはないと断ったうえで言うと、さすがに30歳過ぎているので年間通じての活躍はできないと思う
ただGS取りになると抜群のピーキングを見せるので…GS取りしてほしいがこちらはまだ難しいかな
まず錦織が照準を定めているクレーシーズンで頑張るのが当面のヤマ
ジョコにはどこかで勝つことも必要だね できればIW、マイアミで対戦して連敗脱出して欲しい
不調相手でも最大の壁に勝つことで少しでも自信を持つことが今の錦織には重要